Jay Z "D.O.A." producer No ID gives his thoughts on the now standard practice of artists working with multiple producers on an album.
Notable Quotes:
"It’s a new concept that they cam up with that really destroyed music to me."
"They sound like audio compilations with a different person. They’ve got the same thing on every album."
He’s right about that although some albums like Reasonable Doubt and Illmatic have a lot of producers on it but the Beats where all kinda like connecting together very well.
They where all Sample-Based which gave it a very connecting vibe all over the record.
And i love Resurrection, its cause of the mood and style of the album.
Everything comes together perfectly.
a producer gives a album a certain sound and atmosphere which makes people love entire albums and not just certain songs.
When i think of Resurrection i think of a Jazzy album thats what i call it
When i think of Jay-Z – Kingdom Come i dont know what to call it.
Resurrection i love the entire album, Kingdom Come i love certain songs.
i think people love those old 90s albums cause it had certain style. So a lot of times you gonna either love the album or just not.
you correct my dude…illmatic was the first album to do what he said….Nas the self braggart will happily let it be known lo….
My thing is that if you want to make an album have one theme throughout, one producer is fine. But to be versatile, maybe have songs that are dark, upbeat, positive, inspirational or romantic, you need different producers with different styles in order to accomplish that.
That is really my opinion so i kinda disagree with No ID.
I mean out of my top 5 albums of all time, 2 of them are produced by one producer; Paid In Full, and E.1999 Eternal.
im with you on that one theme throughout, every one want to put a little something for every one its got somthing for the thugs, girls, the blook, radio, the club I feel like that why it’s only 2 to 3 good song on a cd if that
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I Think albums with multiple producers give more producers who come into this game a chance to shine.I keep in mind that when quincy Jones was hot there was less producers out there anyway but I totally understand what No Id is saying ‘you can make a hot album with multiple producers or one producer.Biggie’s Ready to Die “was multiple producers and NWA ” was one producer.Having one producer throughout the whole album just makes the cd flow better to me .Keep in mind that im talking about an era when we bought a whole cd .Respectfully.
It’s not even so much about multiple producers, it’s just about albums having a cohesive flow. I mean, Gangstarr’s ‘Daily Operation’ was all one producer, but there was a variety of styles on display.
I’m all for new dudes getting their shot, but I’m against it when it’s like ‘we need a *insert producer’s name here* beat cos he’s hot right now. In the long run, this isn’t going to help the artist or producer cos the artist gets a very formulaic track & the producer only gets recognised for a certain sound!
yea i agree with NO I.D. on this one, albums today are made up of cliche’s” this track is for the streets, this one is for the ladies, the clubs, etc..” with that u get ppl going to the same producers or the flavor of the month guy.
that is why Im glad i stepped my game up on the production, as i handled most production on my first mixtape, and intend to do so on future projects, with the exceptions of a few producers i get it in with.
there was a recent article on illmatic. i think it was in the source or vibe. mc search basically gave a rundown on how the album was put together. there was one quote from preemo, something along the lines of i heard q tips beat and went back and redid mine. he was talking about represent i believe.
i dont know what my point is really but yea illmatic was my first disagreement point to no i.d. but at the same time i agree with him too cuz its so formulaic as downstroke pointed out.
besides exceptions like ‘illmatic’ and a couple of jay’s albums, no i.d.’s really on point here. are we gonna see a jay-z/no i.d. lp???? that’d be crazy.
I gotta say i like both Albums with 1 Producer and Albums with different Producers.
When i listen to Common – Resurrection it sounds like the Album had a certain Theme with a Jazzy Twist.
But at the same time you have Gangstarr – Moment Of Truth album which has 1 producer (Premo) but the Beats all have very different themes. It has Beats that sound Raw but also Smooth stuff.
Very true. However, I’m sure he’s not only talkin about mainstream artists either. Underground hip hop albums from 08 & now have had asses of features. Then again, there’s been alot of 1 producer/MC albums. C.R.A.C The Piece Talks, Common Markert,Johnson & Jonson, Panacea, Eminem, Atmosphere, Blue Scholars, etc. Atleast there’s a balance, yeh?
me, my favorite albums as a listener have one producer
I think there’s a few albums out there that have been ruined by having too many cooks in the kitchen – obviously there are exceptions to both philosophies, but I think that lots of albums with multiple producers sound kinda “scattered” – yo, we got this track for this, we got this other track for this……….
just me though
I honestly think that it’s the sole responsibility of the “artist” to make sure that their album flows if they use multiple producers! You can have an album where it starts off slow and then builds as the tracks go on! I’m a firm believer that your first track should be the most banging lyrically and production-wise which sets the tone for the rest of the album! The album should be an experience instead of a radio promo disc! Holla!
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I see his point and I agree with it 99.9%, but there are in fact plenty of examples of an artist’s albums being helmed by multiple producers even before hip-hop became the cultural mega force it is today.
The problem, as Forkast points out, is that Hip-Hop was condensed into a formula of based on commodity. So media corporations (and the major record labels they owned) that eventually came to control it wanted to blanket the marketplace to double their chances on sales by having a different track for a different environment. This detracted from the continuity of albums and the integrity of the art being created in the long run.
As long as the world is convinced, by these formulas, that hip-hop is a disposable commodity…then the evolution of the culture as a whole is in serious trouble.
And yeah, Dyllemma…Illmatic is hands down a one word smack down rebuttal to I.D.’s argument. It proves that sometimes more than one cook in the kitchen can actually result in a mean stew.
hey the clipse did it on their last album and nobody bought it, even though it was a classic in my opinion.